US indicates Israeli Raptor access to compensate for Saudi JDAM deal
US officials have indicated that Israel could be granted access to the F-22 Raptor air-superiority fighter project if the Senate clears the aircraft for export, Israeli defence sources have told Jane's. At the same time, US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has rejected Israeli objections to a major sale of Boeing Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) kits to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries.
[Jane's Defence Weekly - first posted to http://jdw.janes.com - 25 April 2007]
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Japan Confident U.S. Will End Ban On F-22 Exports
April 25, 2007 10:15 p.m. EST
Richard Bowden - AHN Staff Writer
Tokyo, Japan (AHN) - Japan has said it is confident that a Congress ban on the export of the future generation F-22 fighter will be overturned allowing them to purchase a number of the state-of-the-art, $200 million USD aircraft.
A senior White House spokesman said the U.S. was "very positively disposed" towards selling the fighter to Japan saying that it was obvious that Japan's defense officials felt it needed the F-22 to combat Chinese air force expansion and North Korean missile technology.
"The Japanese obviously feel some threat in relation to North Korea and its development of missile and nuclear capabilities," he said at a briefing a day before Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe comes to Washington.
"It's something for the experts to look at, to figure out which of the many superb aircraft we have suit Japan's needs most," he said.
Prime Minister Abe is expected to bring up the ban on the F-22 aircraft which is currently so secret it is bound by a Congress ban on any export of the state-of-the art technology.
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Japan applies to buy fighter Australia rejects
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/japan- ... 74628.html
Tom Allard National Security Editor
April 30, 2007
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THE United States has responded favourably to Japanese requests to buy the potent F-22 Raptor fighter jet, undermining claims by the Minister for Defence, Brendan Nelson, that the aircraft was not available for foreign sale.
In February Dr Nelson killed off growing agitation for Australia to seriously consider the F-22, citing a letter from the US Deputy Defence Secretary, Gordon England, stating the F-22 was not for sale.
Soon afterwards, he pushed through the controversial decision to buy 24 Super Hornet jets at a cost of $6 billion.
In recent weeks, Japan and Israel have approached the US to buy the F-22, a long-range fighter that can cruise at supersonic speed, reach extraordinarily high altitudes and has unparalleled stealth and a perfect record in exercises.
Before a visit to Washington this week by the Japanese Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, a senior US official said the White House was "positively disposed" towards selling the F-22 to Tokyo.
"We're happy to discuss supplying the next-generation fighters to Japan," said Dennis Wilder, the senior director of East Asian affairs at the US National Security Council.
"China is spurring modernisation of its air force and North Korea's missile and nuclear capabilities come as a threat to Japan. All of these explain why Japan's Air Self-Defence Force requested the future-generation fighters."
The F-22 costs about $US136 million ($164 million) each, but remains attractive because of its exceptional performance and clear superiority over even future generations of rival Russian fighters.
For years, the US has been reluctant to let other nations gain access to such a high-tech jet, which it believes gives it a pivotal strategic advantage in the skies for decades to come.
But Loren Thompson, an analyst close to the Pentagon and military contractors, told Reuters there had been a mood shift in senior air force ranks.
"Strategic reasons for selling the plane are becoming compelling," said Mr Thompson, of the Lexington Institute, citing cruise missile defence and the fact that Japan and other nations could help fund a bomber version of the F-22. The bomber version would most appeal to Australia.
Dr Nelson, who was travelling back from Gallipoli, could not be reached for comment but has said recently that he believes the F-22 is not the right plane for Australia.
Labor's defence spokesman, Joel Fitzgibbon, said: "The Australian Government has egg over its face.
"It's time for the Government to review its own strategy and to push the US hard on the Raptor so it's in the mix when it comes to air capability."
Australia has set aside $15 billion for new fighter jets, and plans to buy about 100 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, which are still in the development phase and could be subject to delays and cost blow-outs.
Fears of such delays prompted Dr Nelson to spend $6 billion on the 24 Super Hornets, a less capable fourth-generation plane, as a stopgap until the F-35s are delivered.
Dr Nelson's declaration that the US would not sell Australia the F-22 came on the eve of a paper from the influential Australian Strategic Policy Institute analyst Andrew Davies.
The paper urged the Howard Government's consideration of the F-22.
Australia is likely to get a receptive hearing if it asks for the F-22 because it is a close ally, in a formal security alliance with the US and Japan. Any foreign sale of the F-22 would also require congressional approval.
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Esta mais do que obvio que o Japao vai de F-22 é questao de tempo
Somos memórias de lobos que rasgam a pele
Lobos que foram homens e o tornarão a ser
ou talvez memórias de homens.
que insistem em não rasgar a pele
Homens que procuram ser lobos
mas que jamais o tornarão a ser...
Moonspell - Full Moon Madness
Lobos que foram homens e o tornarão a ser
ou talvez memórias de homens.
que insistem em não rasgar a pele
Homens que procuram ser lobos
mas que jamais o tornarão a ser...
Moonspell - Full Moon Madness
Einsamkeit escreveu:Esta mais do que obvio que o Japao vai de F-22 é questao de tempo
Tambem concordo mas quanto tempo? Nos tempos que ter mais Raptors de quizermos manter superioridade area sobre o globo no futuro. Parece que a unica esperanca que a USAF tem na sua missao de receber mais, e' para vender alguns para paises estrangeiros e manter a linha de producao aberta.
Se voces acham que um F-16 vem com uma coleira, imagine o F-22. Na minha opiniao o Japao pode ter, mas so' pessoal da USAF deve manter os avioes.
"Agora eu quero que vocês se lembrem que nenhum filho de *** ganhou uma guerra morrendo de pena dele. Ela ganhou ao forçar o outro filho da *** a morrer pelo seu país"~
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Japan's Jet Plan Upsets South Korea
by Lee Jong-Heon
UPI Correspondent
Seoul (UPI) April 27, 2007
Alarmed by Japan's move to acquire U.S. F-22 stealth fighters, South Korea has hinted it would also seek to procure the future generation fighter jets to cope with any possible security jitters.
Japan is aggressively pushing for the purchase of 100 F-22 "Raptors," which cost $200 million per unit, saying the fighter aircraft is necessary to combat Chinese air force expansion and North Korean missile threats.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is expected to raise the arms deal issue during his summit with U.S. President George W. Bush this week, according to diplomatic sources.
U.S. law forbids the export of the F-22, nicknamed the "dream fighter jet," to protect its technology. But Congress seems ready to change the law to lift the ban and the Bush administration already has expressed its willingness to negotiate with Tokyo over the sale of the stealth fighters.
If Japan obtains up to 100 F-22s, it will have the world's second-biggest air force and dominate the skies over the Korean peninsula and China; their operational radius extends as far as 2,000 kilometers, South Korean defense officials and analysts say.
Considered as the most advanced air-superiority fighter in the world, the F-22, built by Lockheed Martin, is equipped with an active, electronically scanned radar for cruise missile detection and is capable of evading advanced air defenses to bomb ballistic missile launch sites.
Indicating the arms deal is near at hand, Japan and the United States conducted joint air force drills on Friday involving a squadron of F-22 stealth fighters temporally deployed at Kadena Air Base in Okinawa.
Japan's push for the F-22 aircraft has sparked security concerns in South Korea, which has already slipped in the regional arms race amid lingering threats from nuclear-armed North Korea.
On Friday, Seoul's Defense Minister Kim Jang-soo hinted that his country would review its plan to buy F-15 aircraft to seek to acquire more advanced F-22 models. Under a 2002 deal, South Korea is now procuring 40 F-15 jets from U.S. aerospace giant Boeing and is expected to purchase 20 more F-15 jets to replace its aging fleet of F-4 Phantom IIs.
In a press conference, Kim said South Korea would introduce the fifth generation fighter jets such as the U.S.-built F-22 and F-35.
"With a bigger budget Japan can buy these aircraft, but we can't at this time. But I agree that we have to possess sufficient numbers of aircraft that are equivalent to it," Kim said. "For the time being, our plan is to acquire F-15 class fighters, but we will introduce the fifth generation fighters at some point. We will make a decision after considering various factors such as the military power balance around the Korean peninsula and overall relations with the United States and North Korea."
Asked about the aftermath of Japan's purchase of F-22 jets, Kim said: "The U.S. Congress has yet to make a decision on whether to lift the ban. We will have to look at its decision."
Defense analysts say Japan's possible purchase of F-22 fighters would upset the military balance in Northeast Asia and prompt China to jump into the regional arms race.
"Japan's possible purchase of F-22s would tip the balance of power in Northeast Asia," said Kim Kyung-min, a political science professor at Seoul's Hanyang University.
Kim and other analysts expressed concerns that South Korea is increasingly becoming sandwiched between Japan and China.
Beijing has already started developing its own advanced stealth fighters -- Jian-13 and Jian-14 -- to match F-22 jets. In response, Taiwan plans to acquire 60 F-16 C/Ds from the United States to upgrade its air force preparedness.
South Korea has implemented a 15-year military modernization program since 2005 to introduce state-of-the-art weaponry such as F-15 fighters, patriot missile systems and Aegis-equipped destroyers. But analysts say the plan is unmatched by those of Japan and China in size and budget.
Still worse, Seoul's arms procurement plan has hit a snag as the United States has rejected selling its high-flying surveillance aircraft to South Korea.
South Korea has asked the United States to sell its Global Hawks, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), saying it is necessary to boost its surveillance over North Korea.
The unmanned spy plane is considered a key strategic weapon and is under strict export restrictions, meaning that congressional approval is needed before the UAV can be sold abroad.
"South Korea is in a double bind: a nuclear and biological missile threat from North Korea and being trapped between a fierce armament race between China and Japan," Seoul's largest newspaper Chosun Ilbo said in an editorial.
Source: United Press International
Não entendo a preocupação da Coréia do Sul com o Japão. Não seria mais lógico uma aliança militar entre os dois contra China e NK? Atualmente não tem mais sentido ficarem se bicando qdo tem tantas ameaças em comum.
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O problema é que os Sul Coreanos não gostam dos Japoneses quase mais do que não gostam dos Chineses...
Os Coreanos são muito desconfiados de qualquer coisa que ocorra no Japão que indique "a expansão" da Influência Japonesa nessa área do mundo.
Raptor's no Japão realmente sob o ponto de vista sul coreano colocaria o Japão na "liderança" militar naquela região (não que não ocorra hoje, é que o Raptor colocaria a diferença ainda maior).
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Os Coreanos são muito desconfiados de qualquer coisa que ocorra no Japão que indique "a expansão" da Influência Japonesa nessa área do mundo.
Raptor's no Japão realmente sob o ponto de vista sul coreano colocaria o Japão na "liderança" militar naquela região (não que não ocorra hoje, é que o Raptor colocaria a diferença ainda maior).
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CB_Lima = Carlos Lima 
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Que os japas vão de F-22, não é nenhuma novidade, resta saber quando irão optar por isto, por enquanto, o que eles possuem, já segura qualquer ameaça a território japones.
E claro, com a expansão financeira/militar chinesa pela Ásia a tendência disto acontecer fica ainda maior, quanto aos sulcoreanos, hj, a ameça maior vem da China do que das antigas rixas com os japoneses....
E claro, com a expansão financeira/militar chinesa pela Ásia a tendência disto acontecer fica ainda maior, quanto aos sulcoreanos, hj, a ameça maior vem da China do que das antigas rixas com os japoneses....
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cb_lima escreveu:O problema é que os Sul Coreanos não gostam dos Japoneses quase mais do que não gostam dos Chineses...
Os Coreanos são muito desconfiados de qualquer coisa que ocorra no Japão que indique "a expansão" da Influência Japonesa nessa área do mundo.
Raptor's no Japão realmente sob o ponto de vista sul coreano colocaria o Japão na "liderança" militar naquela região (não que não ocorra hoje, é que o Raptor colocaria a diferença ainda maior).
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CB_Lima
Boa Noite sr. CB_lima,
Penso que isso seja reflexo da himbernação da Diplomacia Geoestratégica dos japoneses.
Com os recentes acontecimentos, da ascenção de Abe, e intenção de rever a Constituição Japonesa, crreio que os esforços diplomáticos do país serão direcionados para a estabilidade regional do Pacífico, especialmente com Coréi do Sul.
Já existe conversas no meio sobre um Tratado de Paz e Cooperação Nipo-Coreano, por meio do qual pretende-se erradicar a desconfiança que é mútua. Neste cenário, tal parceria tornar-se-á poderosíssima, e as possibilidades de cooperação, tecnológica, industrial e militar são gigantescas.
Perdoem o off-topic.
Respeitosamente,
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hayes escreveu:cb_lima escreveu:O problema é que os Sul Coreanos não gostam dos Japoneses quase mais do que não gostam dos Chineses...
Os Coreanos são muito desconfiados de qualquer coisa que ocorra no Japão que indique "a expansão" da Influência Japonesa nessa área do mundo.
Raptor's no Japão realmente sob o ponto de vista sul coreano colocaria o Japão na "liderança" militar naquela região (não que não ocorra hoje, é que o Raptor colocaria a diferença ainda maior).
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CB_Lima
Boa Noite sr. CB_lima,
Penso que isso seja reflexo da himbernação da Diplomacia Geoestratégica dos japoneses.
Com os recentes acontecimentos, da ascenção de Abe, e intenção de rever a Constituição Japonesa, crreio que os esforços diplomáticos do país serão direcionados para a estabilidade regional do Pacífico, especialmente com Coréi do Sul.
Já existe conversas no meio sobre um Tratado de Paz e Cooperação Nipo-Coreano, por meio do qual pretende-se erradicar a desconfiança que é mútua. Neste cenário, tal parceria tornar-se-á poderosíssima, e as possibilidades de cooperação, tecnológica, industrial e militar são gigantescas.
Perdoem o off-topic.
Respeitosamente,
Disse tudo!!!
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