Pope Benedict XVI on Saturday officially named six new non-European cardinals to the body that will elect his successor, including Lebanon’s Maronite Patriarch Bechara Boutros al-Rai.
The 85-year-old pontiff presided over the ceremony in St Peter's Basilica that elevated the six prelates to the Catholic Church's College of Cardinals.
The body "presents a variety of faces, because it expresses the face of the universal Church," he said in a development that has been welcomed by critics concerned that the college has become increasingly Euro-centric under Benedict.
"In this consistory, I want to highlight... that the Church is the Church of all peoples," he said during the ceremony during which the new "princes of the Church" received scarlet red birettas and gold rings.
The new cardinals come from Colombia, India, Lebanon, Nigeria, the Philippines and the United States, and join the elite body that advises the pope and elects his successor upon his death.
They are American James Michael Harvey, Lebanon's Bechara Boutros al-Rai, India's Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal, John Onaiyekan of Nigeria, Colombian Ruben Salazar Gomez and Luis Antonio Tagle of the Philippines.
Announcing the names of the new cardinals last month, Benedict told bishops that he wanted to show that "the Church belongs to all peoples, speaks all languages."
During the last consistory held in February, 16 of the 22 new cardinals named were from Europe.
Saturday's consistory follows the death of several cardinals in recent months and will bring the number of those eligible to vote back up to the maximum of 120.
Cardinals must be under 80 years old to take part in a papal election, although they may stay on as non-voting cardinals.
There are now 62 European cardinals eligible to vote compared with 67 in February, as well as 14 North Americans, 21 South Americans, 11 Africans and 11 Asians.
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"If the people who marched actually voted, we wouldn’t have to march in the first place".
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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Depois do Aoun inovar e culpar o Wissam al-Hassan por ter falhado em proteger um atentado, os aounistas lançam a sua nova versão quem sobre um atentado e fica aleijado é meia pessoa e não pode se candidatar.
Tem o texto abaixo, mas aqui está imagem tirado de um blog libanes, lógico.
Utilizando a modernidade a Nicole Nicolas Bekhaazi nem existe, é a famosa conta fake para atacar outra. Quando o Aoun perder ainda vão perguntar o motivo![[002]](./images/smilies/002.gif "Forca")
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http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDe ... z2Dk4IFfGa
The low level of ethics underlying the Aounist campaign on May Chidiac is by no means a futile detail, as Aounism is always prone to ethical gaffes. The campaign targeting May Chidiac, who is running for the Maronite seat in Kesrouan in next year’s parliamentary elections, started with the following comment written by Aounist activist Nicole Bekhaazi on her Facebook page: “May Chidiac’s candidature in Kesrouan will not be accepted because it is unconstitutional. According to the constitution, Kesrouan is endowed with five MPs, not four and a half.” This was a reference to May Chidiac’s amputated leg and hand as a result of the attempt to assassinate her.
Aounists were pleased with the activist’s phrase, which got many likes and went viral, even as the Change and Reform bloc has yet to comment on it.
It would be not be untrue to say that Aounism is always prone to ethical gaffes. This is not a controversial statement or part of an exchange of insults. Indeed, some branches of knowledge are especially designed to explain such an ethical rush and dissipate the bewilderment resulting from the repetition of such incidents, especially when they originate from a collective “subconscious” that rules over a politically and socially active bloc.
The tendency to use such an incident to epitomize Aounism does entail a certain degree of generalization and injustice, but this interpretation is dictated by the repetition of similar incidents. In fact, General Michel Aoun’s press conferences often end with words that belong to this language register. Some programs on [pro-Aoun TV station] OTV border on tacky folk rhetoric. Pro-Aoun journalists who write instinct-based articles, which are a mixture of politics and verbal abuse, are no strangers to this category. Aounist representatives in the cabinet and parliament, from [Energy Minister] Gebran Bassil to [MP] Nabil Nicolas, also fit within this phenomenon.
Therefore, what we have at hand is an arsenal of tackiness … where Aounist men and women with a medium level of knowledge and intelligence sink to instincts that have not been schooled and polished by sufficient education.
What is Aounism then? Does it epitomize the decadence of Lebanon’s Christians? No, as the cracks riddling the sociopolitical structure are not enough to lead to such a blatant low.
Most probably, this is the moment where the decadent situation of Mount Lebanon’s Christians crosses the path of a serviceman who converted into politics. The army alone does not breed such ingratitude and the Christians could have addressed the consequences of the war using different means. Accordingly, Aounism is the result of two negative components.
Michel Aoun can actually say: “There is freedom in Syria, as proven by the fact that Syrians can go out and buy meat anywhere they want.” Likewise, the aforementioned Aounist activist can also say that there are five parliamentary seats rather than four and a half in Kesrouan.
Tem o texto abaixo, mas aqui está imagem tirado de um blog libanes, lógico.
Utilizando a modernidade a Nicole Nicolas Bekhaazi nem existe, é a famosa conta fake para atacar outra. Quando o Aoun perder ainda vão perguntar o motivo
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The low level of ethics underlying the Aounist campaign on May Chidiac is by no means a futile detail, as Aounism is always prone to ethical gaffes. The campaign targeting May Chidiac, who is running for the Maronite seat in Kesrouan in next year’s parliamentary elections, started with the following comment written by Aounist activist Nicole Bekhaazi on her Facebook page: “May Chidiac’s candidature in Kesrouan will not be accepted because it is unconstitutional. According to the constitution, Kesrouan is endowed with five MPs, not four and a half.” This was a reference to May Chidiac’s amputated leg and hand as a result of the attempt to assassinate her.
Aounists were pleased with the activist’s phrase, which got many likes and went viral, even as the Change and Reform bloc has yet to comment on it.
It would be not be untrue to say that Aounism is always prone to ethical gaffes. This is not a controversial statement or part of an exchange of insults. Indeed, some branches of knowledge are especially designed to explain such an ethical rush and dissipate the bewilderment resulting from the repetition of such incidents, especially when they originate from a collective “subconscious” that rules over a politically and socially active bloc.
The tendency to use such an incident to epitomize Aounism does entail a certain degree of generalization and injustice, but this interpretation is dictated by the repetition of similar incidents. In fact, General Michel Aoun’s press conferences often end with words that belong to this language register. Some programs on [pro-Aoun TV station] OTV border on tacky folk rhetoric. Pro-Aoun journalists who write instinct-based articles, which are a mixture of politics and verbal abuse, are no strangers to this category. Aounist representatives in the cabinet and parliament, from [Energy Minister] Gebran Bassil to [MP] Nabil Nicolas, also fit within this phenomenon.
Therefore, what we have at hand is an arsenal of tackiness … where Aounist men and women with a medium level of knowledge and intelligence sink to instincts that have not been schooled and polished by sufficient education.
What is Aounism then? Does it epitomize the decadence of Lebanon’s Christians? No, as the cracks riddling the sociopolitical structure are not enough to lead to such a blatant low.
Most probably, this is the moment where the decadent situation of Mount Lebanon’s Christians crosses the path of a serviceman who converted into politics. The army alone does not breed such ingratitude and the Christians could have addressed the consequences of the war using different means. Accordingly, Aounism is the result of two negative components.
Michel Aoun can actually say: “There is freedom in Syria, as proven by the fact that Syrians can go out and buy meat anywhere they want.” Likewise, the aforementioned Aounist activist can also say that there are five parliamentary seats rather than four and a half in Kesrouan.
"If the people who marched actually voted, we wouldn’t have to march in the first place".
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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Hezbollah diz que rebeldes não vencerão na Síria
O líder do Hezbollah, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, afirmou neste domingo que os rebeldes na Síria não conseguirão sair vitoriosos do conflito que se arrasta há 21 meses contra o governo.
Nasrallah, um aliado do presidente sírio Bashar al-Assad, afirmou: "A situação na Síria está ficando mais complicada, mas qualquer um que achar que a oposição armada pode resolver a situação em campo está muito, muito enganado."
Os rebeldes sírios acusam o grupo xiita de mandar combatentes para a Síria para ajudarem Assad, que está tentando esmagar uma revolta contra seu regime. O grupo nega as acusações.
http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/inte ... 4366,0.htm
O líder do Hezbollah, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, afirmou neste domingo que os rebeldes na Síria não conseguirão sair vitoriosos do conflito que se arrasta há 21 meses contra o governo.
Nasrallah, um aliado do presidente sírio Bashar al-Assad, afirmou: "A situação na Síria está ficando mais complicada, mas qualquer um que achar que a oposição armada pode resolver a situação em campo está muito, muito enganado."
Os rebeldes sírios acusam o grupo xiita de mandar combatentes para a Síria para ajudarem Assad, que está tentando esmagar uma revolta contra seu regime. O grupo nega as acusações.
http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/inte ... 4366,0.htm
"O correr da vida embrulha tudo,
a vida é assim: esquenta e esfria,
aperta e daí afrouxa,
sossega e depois desinquieta.
O que ela quer da gente é coragem."
João Guimarães Rosa
a vida é assim: esquenta e esfria,
aperta e daí afrouxa,
sossega e depois desinquieta.
O que ela quer da gente é coragem."
João Guimarães Rosa
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A explosão existiu, agora as causas o Hezbollah nunca vai informar.
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index ... icle=77931
Two days after a mysterious explosion at a Hezbollah weapons depot in southern Lebanon, the Kuwaiti website Al Jarida is reporting that Israel bombed the site because Syria had transferred missiles there that were capable of being equipped with chemical warheads. The missiles had been moved into Lebanon from Syria in the last several months and were being held inside warehouses owned by farmers in the area.
The report also claimed that Hezbollah has many additional warehouses across Lebanon that are used for the same purpose. In October another weapons storage facility in the town of Baalbek was destroyed after an explosion. The AFP said that four Syrians were killed in the blast.
The prospect of Syria using chemical weapons has become a major issue in the country’s nearly two year-old civil war. Israel has held meetings with several European countries and is also reportedly operating within Syria to track weapons movement. Reports earlier this month had it that Syria had already moved weapons into Lebanon. U.S. President Barack Obama has also stated that use of chemical weapons by Assad would be a “red line.”
In the Washington Post Tuesday, David Ignatius wrote of a conversation he had with a source close to Syrian defectors who had ties to the chemical weapons program in Syria.
“According to the defector’s account, two senior Syrian officers moved about 100 kilograms of chemical weapons materials from a secret military base in January. The base was in a village called Nasiriyah, about 50 to 60 kilometers northeast of Damascus,” Ignatius writes.
“The Syrian source also described construction of special trucks, which could transport and mix the weapons, at a workshop in the Damascus suburb of Dummar. This workshop was part of a network of secret research facilities known in Arabic as the ‘Bohous.’”
Ignatius arrives at the same conclusion so many in the West have: Bashar al-Assad and chemical weapons are a major threat to the region.
“What should we make of these reports? First, the Syrian chemical-warfare capability may be even more dangerous than people had thought, because the weapons can be moved to other locations and mixed en route. And, second, there’s a significant risk of proliferation to other groups, such as Hezbollah, which could pose a global terrorist threat.”
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index ... icle=77931
Two days after a mysterious explosion at a Hezbollah weapons depot in southern Lebanon, the Kuwaiti website Al Jarida is reporting that Israel bombed the site because Syria had transferred missiles there that were capable of being equipped with chemical warheads. The missiles had been moved into Lebanon from Syria in the last several months and were being held inside warehouses owned by farmers in the area.
The report also claimed that Hezbollah has many additional warehouses across Lebanon that are used for the same purpose. In October another weapons storage facility in the town of Baalbek was destroyed after an explosion. The AFP said that four Syrians were killed in the blast.
The prospect of Syria using chemical weapons has become a major issue in the country’s nearly two year-old civil war. Israel has held meetings with several European countries and is also reportedly operating within Syria to track weapons movement. Reports earlier this month had it that Syria had already moved weapons into Lebanon. U.S. President Barack Obama has also stated that use of chemical weapons by Assad would be a “red line.”
In the Washington Post Tuesday, David Ignatius wrote of a conversation he had with a source close to Syrian defectors who had ties to the chemical weapons program in Syria.
“According to the defector’s account, two senior Syrian officers moved about 100 kilograms of chemical weapons materials from a secret military base in January. The base was in a village called Nasiriyah, about 50 to 60 kilometers northeast of Damascus,” Ignatius writes.
“The Syrian source also described construction of special trucks, which could transport and mix the weapons, at a workshop in the Damascus suburb of Dummar. This workshop was part of a network of secret research facilities known in Arabic as the ‘Bohous.’”
Ignatius arrives at the same conclusion so many in the West have: Bashar al-Assad and chemical weapons are a major threat to the region.
“What should we make of these reports? First, the Syrian chemical-warfare capability may be even more dangerous than people had thought, because the weapons can be moved to other locations and mixed en route. And, second, there’s a significant risk of proliferation to other groups, such as Hezbollah, which could pose a global terrorist threat.”
"If the people who marched actually voted, we wouldn’t have to march in the first place".
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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Uma ucraniana ficou nua em protesto contra a proibição de fumar no aeroporto de Beirute.
"If the people who marched actually voted, we wouldn’t have to march in the first place".
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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Se tivessem proibido de beber então heim... O que ela não faria ????marcelo l. escreveu:
Uma ucraniana ficou nua em protesto contra a proibição de fumar no aeroporto de Beirute.
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"If the people who marched actually voted, we wouldn’t have to march in the first place".
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
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"Não há modelo útil Europeu para comparação."
AGORA: Você recentemente co-escreveu um artigo enumerando dez maneiras que os Estados falham. Problemas do Líbano parecem mais próxima de sua Colômbia e exemplos da Somália, ou seja, um fraco, estado quase ausente central e pequena lei e da ordem. Como elas podem ser resolvidas?
Prof James A. Robinson: Essa é uma pergunta muito difícil. Se você pensar historicamente sobre como os estados são formados, geralmente envolve um grupo da sociedade de gestão para efetivamente dominar os outros. O que geralmente significa, como no caso Inglês, é a coerção e parte de comprar as pessoas. Após a Guerra das Rosas, Henrique VII tinha tão enfraquecidos a aristocracia que ele desmilitarizada-los e criou um monopólio da violência. E então ele comprou-los, incorporando-os no estado.
Será que o modelo trabalha aqui? É difícil pensar dos maronitas, ou os xiitas, ou quem, a criação de um monopólio coercitivo sobre os outros grupos, desarmando-os e indo no caminho britânico. Mas não há razão para que cada país tem que ir por esse caminho.
Parece aqui que venho tentando encontrar uma solução constitucional para o problema, mas a dificuldade é que nenhum grupo quer criar um Estado eficaz central porque eles estão apenas com medo de que ele vai ser dominado ou capturado por outros grupos. E então você está nesse fluxo perpétuo, sendo que aqueles que conhecem o poder está mudando para seu benefício não têm incentivo para entregá-lo, enquanto que aqueles que conhecemos está mudando a sua desvantagem não quero isso para ser formalmente reconhecido.
Como você estabilizar essa situação? Eu não acho que o modelo britânico é relevante para se pensar sobre o Líbano. Talvez o sistema atual oferece algumas vantagens. Afinal, as comunidades do Líbano foram convivendo há mais de 1.000 anos. De certa forma, parece ser interferência externa que agrava os problemas. Se todo mundo só deixou o Líbano sozinho, eu acho que seria muito melhor.
AGORA: É interessante você mencionar a desmilitarização, porque, como você deve saber, no final da guerra civil libanesa, cada milícia concordou em desarmar com exceção do Hezbollah, cujo arsenal hoje é substancial. Qual o efeito que isso tem?
Robinson: Bem, eu acho que provavelmente é uma coisa muito ruim, porque, então, não há igualdade de armas. Você espero não ter armas em tudo, é claro, mas uma igualdade de armas é pelo menos melhor do que a assimetria, que, então, eleva os temores de todos os grupos dos outros e leva a eles armar sua vez.
AGORA: Você também escreveu recentemente em Israel e na Palestina. Por que os israelenses muito melhor situação do que os palestinos?
Robinson: israelenses são muito melhor porque você importou tantos recursos, educação, capital humano, tecnologia e assim por diante. Eles também têm instituições altamente inclusivo, enquanto os palestinos tendem a ser mais extractiva. Ao mesmo tempo, Israel tem estrangulado Gaza, onde não há movimento de mão de obra e comércio altamente limitada. E eles fizeram o mesmo, em menor grau, na Cisjordânia.
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/interviews/ ... nomy_fails
"Não há modelo útil Europeu para comparação."
AGORA: Você recentemente co-escreveu um artigo enumerando dez maneiras que os Estados falham. Problemas do Líbano parecem mais próxima de sua Colômbia e exemplos da Somália, ou seja, um fraco, estado quase ausente central e pequena lei e da ordem. Como elas podem ser resolvidas?
Prof James A. Robinson: Essa é uma pergunta muito difícil. Se você pensar historicamente sobre como os estados são formados, geralmente envolve um grupo da sociedade de gestão para efetivamente dominar os outros. O que geralmente significa, como no caso Inglês, é a coerção e parte de comprar as pessoas. Após a Guerra das Rosas, Henrique VII tinha tão enfraquecidos a aristocracia que ele desmilitarizada-los e criou um monopólio da violência. E então ele comprou-los, incorporando-os no estado.
Será que o modelo trabalha aqui? É difícil pensar dos maronitas, ou os xiitas, ou quem, a criação de um monopólio coercitivo sobre os outros grupos, desarmando-os e indo no caminho britânico. Mas não há razão para que cada país tem que ir por esse caminho.
Parece aqui que venho tentando encontrar uma solução constitucional para o problema, mas a dificuldade é que nenhum grupo quer criar um Estado eficaz central porque eles estão apenas com medo de que ele vai ser dominado ou capturado por outros grupos. E então você está nesse fluxo perpétuo, sendo que aqueles que conhecem o poder está mudando para seu benefício não têm incentivo para entregá-lo, enquanto que aqueles que conhecemos está mudando a sua desvantagem não quero isso para ser formalmente reconhecido.
Como você estabilizar essa situação? Eu não acho que o modelo britânico é relevante para se pensar sobre o Líbano. Talvez o sistema atual oferece algumas vantagens. Afinal, as comunidades do Líbano foram convivendo há mais de 1.000 anos. De certa forma, parece ser interferência externa que agrava os problemas. Se todo mundo só deixou o Líbano sozinho, eu acho que seria muito melhor.
AGORA: É interessante você mencionar a desmilitarização, porque, como você deve saber, no final da guerra civil libanesa, cada milícia concordou em desarmar com exceção do Hezbollah, cujo arsenal hoje é substancial. Qual o efeito que isso tem?
Robinson: Bem, eu acho que provavelmente é uma coisa muito ruim, porque, então, não há igualdade de armas. Você espero não ter armas em tudo, é claro, mas uma igualdade de armas é pelo menos melhor do que a assimetria, que, então, eleva os temores de todos os grupos dos outros e leva a eles armar sua vez.
AGORA: Você também escreveu recentemente em Israel e na Palestina. Por que os israelenses muito melhor situação do que os palestinos?
Robinson: israelenses são muito melhor porque você importou tantos recursos, educação, capital humano, tecnologia e assim por diante. Eles também têm instituições altamente inclusivo, enquanto os palestinos tendem a ser mais extractiva. Ao mesmo tempo, Israel tem estrangulado Gaza, onde não há movimento de mão de obra e comércio altamente limitada. E eles fizeram o mesmo, em menor grau, na Cisjordânia.
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/interviews/ ... nomy_fails
"If the people who marched actually voted, we wouldn’t have to march in the first place".
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant
"(Poor) countries are poor because those who have power make choices that create poverty".
ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant
Re: Líbano
Tenho curiosidade em saber quais os meios nossa gloriosa MB vai enviar para a missão no Líbano, após todas as Fragatas classe "Niterói". A Barroso? Ou classe Greenhalgh?
Abraços.
Abraços.
"A aplicação das leis é mais importante que a sua elaboração." (Thomas Jefferson)
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UNIFIL: Retirada israelense não é um assunto de negociação
Guilherme Wiltgen Israel Líbano ONU UN UNIFIL Conflitos em andamento Missões de Paz ONU UNIFIL
Na última terça-feira (30), a Força Interina da ONU no Líbano, afirmou que Israel deve retirar-se do território libanês, na aldeia fronteiriça de Ghajar.
Segundo a um comunicado da UNIFIL:
“A posição da UNIFIL no norte de Ghajar, é muito clara: Israel deve se retirar desta área e sua presença ali é uma violação clara e contínua da resolução 1701. Não há dúvida o fato de que esta área, que fica ao norte da Linha Azul, é território libanês e a retirada israelense da área não é um assunto de negociação – é uma obrigação que Israel deve cumprir”.
Segundo a ONU, a proposta de Israel de construir, um muro ao redor da aldeia, foi rejeitada, e o Exército libanês com a ajuda da UNIFIL, vai trabalhar para que a resolução da ONU seja cumprida.
A UNIFIL se encarregou de proteger o lado libanês de Ghajar, após a retirada do exército israelense. Enquanto o Líbano aprovou o plano, Israel continua a adiar a sua decisão sobre ele.
Israel ocupou a parte norte da aldeia, durante a guerra de 2006.
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fonte: www.defesaereaenaval.com.br
Guilherme Wiltgen Israel Líbano ONU UN UNIFIL Conflitos em andamento Missões de Paz ONU UNIFIL
Na última terça-feira (30), a Força Interina da ONU no Líbano, afirmou que Israel deve retirar-se do território libanês, na aldeia fronteiriça de Ghajar.
Segundo a um comunicado da UNIFIL:
“A posição da UNIFIL no norte de Ghajar, é muito clara: Israel deve se retirar desta área e sua presença ali é uma violação clara e contínua da resolução 1701. Não há dúvida o fato de que esta área, que fica ao norte da Linha Azul, é território libanês e a retirada israelense da área não é um assunto de negociação – é uma obrigação que Israel deve cumprir”.
Segundo a ONU, a proposta de Israel de construir, um muro ao redor da aldeia, foi rejeitada, e o Exército libanês com a ajuda da UNIFIL, vai trabalhar para que a resolução da ONU seja cumprida.
A UNIFIL se encarregou de proteger o lado libanês de Ghajar, após a retirada do exército israelense. Enquanto o Líbano aprovou o plano, Israel continua a adiar a sua decisão sobre ele.
Israel ocupou a parte norte da aldeia, durante a guerra de 2006.
FONTE: GB
fonte: www.defesaereaenaval.com.br
Um mal é um mal. Menor, maior, médio, tanto faz… As proporções são convencionadas e as fronteiras, imprecisas. Não sou um santo eremita e não pratiquei apenas o bem ao longo de minha vida. Mas, se me couber escolher entre dois males, prefiro abster-me por completo da escolha.
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Re: Líbano
Quanto mais eu vejo a situação na Siria se complicando, e agora o Hesbollah apoiando diretamente o regime sírio, que em troca sustenta politica, logistica e belicamente este grupo terrorista libanês, ademais das últimas frases soltas que vem sendo enviadas quanto a valia deste apoio, e contra Israel, mais eu me convenço de que esta história e mandar, mesmo que seja, uma companhia do CFN, já que é a MB que está a frente da missão no mar, naquela região, é absolutamente dispensável e inútil. Se não, uma sandice absurda e sem tamanho.
A guerra na Siria irá se espalhar. Chegará ao Líbano. E quando isso acontecer, envolverá Israel e seus aliados, ao mesmo tempo que os sírios serão cobertos pelos seus tradicionais aliados. Vai ser um inferno maior e pior do que já é. E nós no meio daquilo tudo.
Já estou até vendo o vexame do pessoal tendo que ser retirado mais do que as pressas da fronteira líbano-israelense deixando tudo para trás para não ser envolvido na merda que está por ser gerada naquela região. E mais ainda a neurótica reação da presidenta dando soco na mesa e na cara de alguém se bobear, por ter mandado soldados brasileiros para um buraco como aquele, sem ela ter nenhuma explicação conveniente para o populacho eleitor, que não quer nem saber se existe vaga de CS da ONU e nem se isso tem alguma serventia para nós.
Espero que ainda haja bom senso em algum lugar do Itamarati.
abs.
A guerra na Siria irá se espalhar. Chegará ao Líbano. E quando isso acontecer, envolverá Israel e seus aliados, ao mesmo tempo que os sírios serão cobertos pelos seus tradicionais aliados. Vai ser um inferno maior e pior do que já é. E nós no meio daquilo tudo.
Já estou até vendo o vexame do pessoal tendo que ser retirado mais do que as pressas da fronteira líbano-israelense deixando tudo para trás para não ser envolvido na merda que está por ser gerada naquela região. E mais ainda a neurótica reação da presidenta dando soco na mesa e na cara de alguém se bobear, por ter mandado soldados brasileiros para um buraco como aquele, sem ela ter nenhuma explicação conveniente para o populacho eleitor, que não quer nem saber se existe vaga de CS da ONU e nem se isso tem alguma serventia para nós.
Espero que ainda haja bom senso em algum lugar do Itamarati.
abs.
Um mal é um mal. Menor, maior, médio, tanto faz… As proporções são convencionadas e as fronteiras, imprecisas. Não sou um santo eremita e não pratiquei apenas o bem ao longo de minha vida. Mas, se me couber escolher entre dois males, prefiro abster-me por completo da escolha.
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Re: Líbano
Bom, com a possibilidade do envio de tropas brasileiras para o Líbano cada vez mais em riste, sendo provavelmente, como citou o eligioep no tópico sobre o Congo, uma Cia de fuzileiros navais, é interessante saber um pouco mais sobre a organização e capacidade desta tropa que, se vier mesmo a ser enviada para lá, pode constar de um Grupamento de Fuzileiros Navais, semelhante ao enviado à Missão no Haiti.
Aqui estão duas reportagens, embora antigas, mas que dão bem a entender como é e se organiza a nossa tropa anfíbia em missões da ONU.
Como ainda nada foi definido, podemos especular que este grupamento, em sua dimensionalidade e organização, poderá variar entre 200 a 400 homens, como é feito no Brasil, dependendo da missão e de seus objetivos.
http://www.alide.com.br/joomla/componen ... -no-haiti-
abs.
Aqui estão duas reportagens, embora antigas, mas que dão bem a entender como é e se organiza a nossa tropa anfíbia em missões da ONU.
Como ainda nada foi definido, podemos especular que este grupamento, em sua dimensionalidade e organização, poderá variar entre 200 a 400 homens, como é feito no Brasil, dependendo da missão e de seus objetivos.
http://www.alide.com.br/joomla/componen ... -no-haiti-
abs.
Um mal é um mal. Menor, maior, médio, tanto faz… As proporções são convencionadas e as fronteiras, imprecisas. Não sou um santo eremita e não pratiquei apenas o bem ao longo de minha vida. Mas, se me couber escolher entre dois males, prefiro abster-me por completo da escolha.
A. Sapkowski
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Re: Líbano
Hezbollah plays its hand in battle for Syria
Lebanon-based militia is assisting villagers caught up in the conflict, and reportedly fighting alongside Assad forces.
Qasr, Lebanon - Abu Ali Haq is a fighter on a crucial battle line in Syria's ruinous civil war, and he's locked in to what he sees as an existential struggle for his village and his kin living here.
Except, Abu Ali Haq is not Syrian and neither are his fellow villagers. They are Lebanese.
With a scarred nose smashed flat, dressed in battle fatigues and chain-smoking cigarettes, Ali Haq explained: "When attacks started around a year-and-a-half ago we formed the popular committees. The men from our village have entered a number of battles. Three have been killed, but many more have been injured."
The border between northern Lebanon and Syria is nondescript at the best of times, but in many places now it has been erased by more than two years of conflict in Syria.
Lebanese villagers are now playing a key role on the Syrian battlefield with the support of both the Syrian Army and the dominant Shia political and military force in Lebanon, Hezbollah.
Ali Haq's village Saf Sufi is among a cluster of communities that technically fall within the Syrian border, but because of a misguided colonialist's pen stroke in the 1920s they are inhabited by Lebanese citizens. Some 15,000 Lebanese Shia have lived for decades on the Syrian side of a frontier, which is not clearly demarcated or patrolled.
The predominantly Shia residents of the villages have taken a stance against the increasingly Sunni-led Syrian rebellion, and claim they have been attacked and laid siege to by Islamist fighters.
"I'm not interested in this party or that party, but I have the right to defend my home and my family, and I will take support from whoever will offer it," said Ali Haq.
Hezbollah intervention
While Hezbollah ostensibly only supports the Lebanese popular committees from a handful of villages, an extended network of its fighters share in their battle in villages, hamlets and farmsteads at points along an 80-kilometre stretch of borderland.
"We assist them materially and politically, with money, medicines, resources … whatever they need," said a local Hezbollah member, who asked not to be named because he was not authorised to talk with the press.
The support given to the popular committees in the northern border region is reflective of the village guards that Hezbollah used to devastating affect against the Israelis in south Lebanon during the 2006 war.
Hezbollah's full time and extremely well drilled cadres provided training, organisation and arms to local volunteers who wreaked havoc among the invading Israeli ground troops.
"They are again doing what they do best - organising local defenses. I saw with my own eyes that the level of proficiency they displayed in 2006 was amazing," explained Timur Goksel, a former senior political advisor to the United Nations in southern Lebanon.
While Hezbollah is the dominant military and political force in the area, it is perhaps the tribal and family relations between the fighters on the Lebanese and Syrian sides of the border that most solidly cement their loyalty.
"If my cousin is in need of help, I will give him weapons and teach him how to use them. I am trained after all," said a Hezbollah fighter who gave his nom de guerre as Abu Ali. "This is a tribal area, and there is no way we can abandon our kin."
Providing cover
In the plains of the northern Beka'a valley where the state is almost completely absent, Hezbollah provides security and political cover for the tribes. "When the shit hits the fan they are all Hezbollah," explained Goksel.
While Abu Ali Haq and some of the local Hezbollah fighters were drinking tea and discussing their right to defend the border villages, thunderous explosions boomed from the all Shia and Hezbollah controlled town of Hermel, 5km back into Lebanese territory.
The Syrian opposition's Free Syrian Army (FSA) had targeted Hermel with four Katyusha rockets from several kilometres east along the border.
"I didn't flee when the Israeli's bombed us in 2006, despite six members of my family being injured, and I'm not leaving now," said villager Yousseff Mattar as he inspected the still-smoldering tail of one of the rockets that careered into the hillside several hundred metres from his house.
Immediately before meeting its ultimate fate in the rocky outcrop, the missile had flown directly over a Ferris wheel and family play park.
The FSA launched their first missile attack on the Shia towns of north Lebanon resulting in two civilian deaths, including a 13-year-old boy. Intermittent and sporadic attacks have continued in reprisal for Hezbollah's expanding role in the Syrian conflict.
"These strikes from the FSA are a warning shot to Hezbollah saying they need to rethink their strategy in Syria," said Imad Salameh, a political science professor at the American University of Beirut. "If Hezbollah intervenes in the Syria conflict, then the FSA will be able to bring the fighting into Hezbollah's own backyard."
Battle for Qusayr
The extent of Hezbollah's involvement in supporting Assad's forces is not clear, although it has offered assistance to Shia villages under threat, as well as protecting Shia shrines in Damascus.
The reason Hezbollah's buttressing of the border is causing such consternation among the Syrian rebels is because it is tipping the balance of power in the government's favour in the battle for the town of Qusayr, 8km into Syrian territory.
Control of Qusayr and the surrounding areas is crucial for the opposition fighters to smuggle weapons and men from Lebanon into Syria. For the Assad regime, Qusayr is a vital route north from Damascus to its stronghold in the coastal regions.
After being in rebel control for the past year, a Syrian government offensive was launched Sunday and fighting continues to rage for the strategic town. A large number of Hezbollah fighters were reportedly involved in the attack with more than a dozen killed in the battle.
As it gets further entangled in the Syrian quagmire, Hezbollah will also need to be careful to avoid an escalation that leads to fighting spilling further into Lebanon. Such a scenario would damage its reputation as a purely anti-Israeli resistance movement, and could unsettle its dominant grip over domestic politics.
Source: Al Jazeera
Lebanon-based militia is assisting villagers caught up in the conflict, and reportedly fighting alongside Assad forces.
Qasr, Lebanon - Abu Ali Haq is a fighter on a crucial battle line in Syria's ruinous civil war, and he's locked in to what he sees as an existential struggle for his village and his kin living here.
Except, Abu Ali Haq is not Syrian and neither are his fellow villagers. They are Lebanese.
With a scarred nose smashed flat, dressed in battle fatigues and chain-smoking cigarettes, Ali Haq explained: "When attacks started around a year-and-a-half ago we formed the popular committees. The men from our village have entered a number of battles. Three have been killed, but many more have been injured."
The border between northern Lebanon and Syria is nondescript at the best of times, but in many places now it has been erased by more than two years of conflict in Syria.
Lebanese villagers are now playing a key role on the Syrian battlefield with the support of both the Syrian Army and the dominant Shia political and military force in Lebanon, Hezbollah.
Ali Haq's village Saf Sufi is among a cluster of communities that technically fall within the Syrian border, but because of a misguided colonialist's pen stroke in the 1920s they are inhabited by Lebanese citizens. Some 15,000 Lebanese Shia have lived for decades on the Syrian side of a frontier, which is not clearly demarcated or patrolled.
The predominantly Shia residents of the villages have taken a stance against the increasingly Sunni-led Syrian rebellion, and claim they have been attacked and laid siege to by Islamist fighters.
"I'm not interested in this party or that party, but I have the right to defend my home and my family, and I will take support from whoever will offer it," said Ali Haq.
Hezbollah intervention
While Hezbollah ostensibly only supports the Lebanese popular committees from a handful of villages, an extended network of its fighters share in their battle in villages, hamlets and farmsteads at points along an 80-kilometre stretch of borderland.
"We assist them materially and politically, with money, medicines, resources … whatever they need," said a local Hezbollah member, who asked not to be named because he was not authorised to talk with the press.
The support given to the popular committees in the northern border region is reflective of the village guards that Hezbollah used to devastating affect against the Israelis in south Lebanon during the 2006 war.
Hezbollah's full time and extremely well drilled cadres provided training, organisation and arms to local volunteers who wreaked havoc among the invading Israeli ground troops.
"They are again doing what they do best - organising local defenses. I saw with my own eyes that the level of proficiency they displayed in 2006 was amazing," explained Timur Goksel, a former senior political advisor to the United Nations in southern Lebanon.
While Hezbollah is the dominant military and political force in the area, it is perhaps the tribal and family relations between the fighters on the Lebanese and Syrian sides of the border that most solidly cement their loyalty.
"If my cousin is in need of help, I will give him weapons and teach him how to use them. I am trained after all," said a Hezbollah fighter who gave his nom de guerre as Abu Ali. "This is a tribal area, and there is no way we can abandon our kin."
Providing cover
In the plains of the northern Beka'a valley where the state is almost completely absent, Hezbollah provides security and political cover for the tribes. "When the shit hits the fan they are all Hezbollah," explained Goksel.
While Abu Ali Haq and some of the local Hezbollah fighters were drinking tea and discussing their right to defend the border villages, thunderous explosions boomed from the all Shia and Hezbollah controlled town of Hermel, 5km back into Lebanese territory.
The Syrian opposition's Free Syrian Army (FSA) had targeted Hermel with four Katyusha rockets from several kilometres east along the border.
"I didn't flee when the Israeli's bombed us in 2006, despite six members of my family being injured, and I'm not leaving now," said villager Yousseff Mattar as he inspected the still-smoldering tail of one of the rockets that careered into the hillside several hundred metres from his house.
Immediately before meeting its ultimate fate in the rocky outcrop, the missile had flown directly over a Ferris wheel and family play park.
The FSA launched their first missile attack on the Shia towns of north Lebanon resulting in two civilian deaths, including a 13-year-old boy. Intermittent and sporadic attacks have continued in reprisal for Hezbollah's expanding role in the Syrian conflict.
"These strikes from the FSA are a warning shot to Hezbollah saying they need to rethink their strategy in Syria," said Imad Salameh, a political science professor at the American University of Beirut. "If Hezbollah intervenes in the Syria conflict, then the FSA will be able to bring the fighting into Hezbollah's own backyard."
Battle for Qusayr
The extent of Hezbollah's involvement in supporting Assad's forces is not clear, although it has offered assistance to Shia villages under threat, as well as protecting Shia shrines in Damascus.
The reason Hezbollah's buttressing of the border is causing such consternation among the Syrian rebels is because it is tipping the balance of power in the government's favour in the battle for the town of Qusayr, 8km into Syrian territory.
Control of Qusayr and the surrounding areas is crucial for the opposition fighters to smuggle weapons and men from Lebanon into Syria. For the Assad regime, Qusayr is a vital route north from Damascus to its stronghold in the coastal regions.
After being in rebel control for the past year, a Syrian government offensive was launched Sunday and fighting continues to rage for the strategic town. A large number of Hezbollah fighters were reportedly involved in the attack with more than a dozen killed in the battle.
As it gets further entangled in the Syrian quagmire, Hezbollah will also need to be careful to avoid an escalation that leads to fighting spilling further into Lebanon. Such a scenario would damage its reputation as a purely anti-Israeli resistance movement, and could unsettle its dominant grip over domestic politics.
Source: Al Jazeera
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a vida é assim: esquenta e esfria,
aperta e daí afrouxa,
sossega e depois desinquieta.
O que ela quer da gente é coragem."
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Re: Líbano
400 metros e os sionitas tomaram chumbo! 
http://noticias.terra.com.br/mundo/orie ... aRCRD.html
Saudações
http://noticias.terra.com.br/mundo/orie ... aRCRD.html
Saudações
"Só os mortos conhecem o fim da guerra" Platão.