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#76 Mensagem por akivrx78 » Dom Nov 28, 2010 5:07 pm

No proximo mes vai sair um novo plano de defesa japones, que parece que vai incluir intalacoes militares nestas ilhas em disputas.

Tem quem diz que apesar da politica frouxa japonesa quem perdeu mais pontos ao longo prazo sao os proprios chineses, a saida quase que certa dos fuzileiros de Okinawa tambem parece que perdeu o sentido com os ultimos acontecimentos.

Nesta area onde esta sendo realizado exercicios navais na Coreia do Sul e revendicado pela China tambem, por isto a furia dos chineses contra a 7 frota.

Na minha opiniao os chineses se afobaram em ameacar dar o bote antes da hora,era ja de conhecimento do Ocidente suas metas, se tivessem posterlargado suas metas mais para o futuro tudo poderia ser alcancado quase que naturalmente.

O cerco militar contra a China tende a aumentar pelos seus proprios erros, 2 decadas de um clima de confianca em expansao foi pelo ralo.




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#77 Mensagem por akivrx78 » Dom Nov 28, 2010 5:45 pm

FOXTROT escreveu:Ops, acredito que os caros colegas me interpretaram errado, me refiro aos chiliques do Japo contra a C. do Norte, salvo o disparo de um mssil em 1998 que sobrevou o territrio japa, no me recordo de outra porovacao oriunda da CN.

Quanto aos conflitos sino-japoneses deve-se em grande parte ao resentimento pela ocupao japa na 2 WW, hoje a China uma potncia militar enquanto os japas capacho de yanques.

Saudaes

Oque o Japao mais cobra do governo NC e a libertacao de japoneses sequestrados no passado.
Alem de o governo japones nao gostar muito de ter 200 misseis para pronto disparo apontados para o seu territorio.
O Japao ia bancar 100% dos custos escolar primario da CN, mas com o incidente na CS o acordo foi cancelado.

O odio entre povos nunca vai ser superado se o povo e educado para cultivar o odio para sempre.




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#78 Mensagem por marcelo l. » Ter Dez 28, 2010 10:13 am

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China's military is deploying a new anti-ship ballistic missile that can sink U.S. aircraft carriers, a weapon that specialists say gives Beijing new power-projection capabilities that will affect U.S. support for its Pacific allies.

Adm. Robert F. Willard, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command, disclosed to a Japanese newspaper on Sunday that the new anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) is now in the early stages of deployment after having undergone extensive testing.

"An analogy using a Western term would be 'initial operational capability (IOC),' whereby I think China would perceive that it has an operational capability now, but they continue to develop it," Adm. Willard told the Asahi Shimbun. "I would gauge it as about the equivalent of a U.S. system that has achieved IOC."

The four-star admiral, who has been an outspoken skeptic of China's claims that its large-scale military buildup is peaceful, said the U.S. deployment assessment is based on China's press reports and continued testing.

The new weapon, the "D" version of China's DF-21 medium-range missile, involves firing the mobile missile into space, returning it into the atmosphere and then maneuvering it to its target

Military officials consider using ballistic missiles against ships at sea to be a difficult task that requires a variety of air, sea and space sensors, navigation systems and precision guidance technology - capabilities not typical of other Chinese missiles.

Asked about the integrated system, Adm. Willard said that "to have something that would be regarded as in its early operational stage would require that system be able to accomplish its flight pattern as designed, by and large."

The admiral said that while the U.S. thinks "that the component parts of the anti-ship ballistic missile have been developed and tested," China's testing has not gone as far as a live-fire test attack on an actual ship.

"We have not seen an over-water test of the entire system," he said.

Adm. Willard said he did not view the new missile as a greater threat to U.S. and allied forces than China's submarine forces, which also have been expanded greatly in the past decade.

"Anti-access/area denial, which is a term that was relatively recently coined, is attempting to represent an entire range of capabilities that China has developed and that other countries have developed," he said.

"It´s not exclusively China that has what is now being referred to as A2/AD capability. But in China´s case, it´s a combination of integrated air-defense systems; advanced naval systems, such as the submarine; advanced ballistic-missile systems, such as the anti-ship ballistic missile, as well as power-projection systems into the region," he said.

The new weapons can threaten "archipelagos" in Asia, such as Japan and Philippines, as well as Vietnam and other states that "are falling within the envelope of this, of an A2/AD capability of China," Adm. Willard said.

"That should be concerning - and we know is concerning - to those countries," he said.

Adm. Willard said the new weapons are "an expanded capability that ranges beyond the first island chain and overlaps countries in the region."

"For that reason, it is concerning to Southeast Asia, [and] it remains concerning to the United States."

Andrew S. Erickson, a professor at the U.S. Naval War College, said the admiral's comments on the missile deployment confirm earlier reports that the Chinese are moving ahead with the DF-21D missile.

"China must have conducted a rigorous program of tests, most likely including flight tests, to demonstrate that the DF-21D [missile] is mature enough for initial production, deployment and employment," Mr. Erickson said in an e-mail.

Mr. Erickson estimates that at least one unit of China's Second Artillery Corps, as its missile forces are called, must be equipped with the road-mobile system.

"While doubtless an area of continuous challenge and improvement, the DF-21D´s command, control, communications, computers, information, surveillance, and reconnaissance infrastructure must be sufficient to support attempts at basic carrier strike group targeting," he said.

Mr. Erickson said, based on Chinese missile-deployment patterns, that the new missile system likely will be fielded in "waves" at different units to meet deterrence objectives.

Military specialists have said the DF-21D deployment is a potent new threat because it will force U.S. aircraft carrier strike groups to operate farther from hot spots in the western Pacific.

Currently, U.S. military strategy calls for the Pentagon to send several strike groups to waters near Taiwan in the event China follows through on threats to use force to retake the island. The lone U.S. aircraft carrier strike group based permanently in the region is the USS George Washington, whose home port is inYokosuka, Japan. A second carrier is planned for Hawaii or Guam.

Carrier forces also provide air power in the event of a new war in Korea and are used to assure freedom of navigation, a growing problem as the result of recent Chinese military assertiveness in the South China Sea, East China Sea and Yellow Sea.

Adm. Willard did not discuss what U.S. countermeasures the Navy has taken against the new anti-ship missile. U.S. naval task forces include ships equipped with the Aegis system designed to shoot down ballistic missiles.

Wallace "Chip" Gregson, assistant defense secretary for Asian and Pacific security affairs, said in a speech earlier this month that China's new anti-access and area-denial weapons, including the DF-21D, "threaten our primary means of projecting power: our bases, our sea and air assets, and the networks that support them."

He warned that China's military buildup could "upend the regional security balance."

Richard Fisher, a China military-affairs specialist, said the new ASBM is only one part of a series of new Chinese weapons that threaten the region.

"When we add the ASBM to the PLA's [People's Liberation Army's] growing anti-satellite capabilities, growing numbers of submarines, and quite soon, its fifth-generation fighter, we are seeing the erection of a new Chinese wall in the western Pacific, for which the Obama administration has offered almost nothing in defensive response," Mr. Fisher said.

"Clearly, China's communist leadership is not impressed by the administration's ending of F-22 production, its retirement of the Navy's nuclear cruise missile, START Treaty reductions in U.S. missile warheads, and its refusal to consider U.S. space warfare capabilities. Such weakness is the surest way to invite military adventurism from China," he added.

Mr. Fisher said the Pentagon should mount a crash program to develop high-technology energy weapons, like rail guns and lasers in response to the new ASBMs.

Mark Stokes, a retired Air Force officer who has written extensively on the new missile, said the new deployment is a concern.

"China's ability to place at risk U.S. and other nations' maritime surface assets operating in the western Pacific and South China Sea is growing and closer to becoming a reality than many may think," Mr. Stokes said.




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#79 Mensagem por marcelo l. » Ter Jan 04, 2011 3:27 pm

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What does China’s J-20 fighter aircraft mean this early in its visual discovery?

It might not have the right motors. It might not have the right kind of radar or other avionics. It might not have the right kind of integration of other systems. What it will have is growth room.

Someday the J-20 may have some strike ability but it doesn’t have to in its first “block” or “A” model to be of great use to the Chinese.

What China can do with this aircraft as a basic interceptor will have worth. It has the potential to add more depth to integrated air defence along border hot spots. Combined with China’s AWACS, surface sensors, command and control, surface-to-air missile systems, air refuelling tankers and other fighter aircraft, it will help deny airspace.

China has many air defense scenarios such as; India, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Russia and the U.S. It also has to back up it’s SCO partners.

What kind of threats will this aircraft–as part of the whole Chinese networked integrated air defense system–have to face? The B-2 bomber, legacy long range bombers, possible bat-wings like the UCAS-N. ISR platforms like the RQ-170, Global Hawk, and manned large-body aircraft. There will be the full range of fighter aircraft to game against; various Flanker variants, F-22, F-35 (if it shows up), PAK-FA (India/Russia), and other classic fighter designs. And, an aircraft like this would also be used for cruise-missile defense. From this snapshot, we can see that a basic J-20 as a defensive interceptor will be valuable.

What kind of stealth ability does the initial model need? Not much. Just enough to make the probability of kill (PK) of the AMRAAM or any other radar missile, useless with a nose-on attack profile. If this can be done, you have taken out a lot of the beyond-visual-range (BVR) combat ability of fighter aircraft. With this, you have just nullified an important tool in U.S. air combat ability. What would the F-22, F-15, F-16, F-18, F-35 (if it ever shows up) be without the AMRAAM?

What kind of systems will the first model of this aircraft have if China follows this path? Anything that is off the shelf today. China has AMRAAM-like BVR weapons. It also has a good high-off-bore-sight dogfight missile. Sensors would be an infra-red search and track, and most likely a mechanical scan radar. The initial jet engine for this aircraft might not be what China wants, but if the aircraft can super-cruise and zip along in the 50,000-65000 feet flight range (have a pilot explain to you the amazing amount of effective ground speed at this height) you will have a weapon that will make anything that is not an F-22 or PAK-FA, obsolete.

Why does any of this matter? I will give you one example. In the future, who cares if the U.S. moves a carrier battle group into what China considers its area of influence? America will only be putting thousands of sailors and billions of dollars of taxpayer hardware at unwarranted risk; all with an obsolete carrier air wing.

China’s ability in this area will grow. With an in-debt U.S. and closing down of important production of the F-22, U.S. and allied air power in the Pacific Rim will shrink. The U.S. will stop becoming a credible deterrent. Pacific Rim allies will see the U.S. as unable to maintain regional security. When push comes to shove, they will listen to China and not the U.S.

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#80 Mensagem por Francoorp » Ter Jan 04, 2011 4:32 pm

E realmente eu gostaria de ver isso ai o mais rapido possivel, o fim da hegemonia USA esta chegando, mas demora muito... o banqueiro tem que ter o seu mercado interno pronto rapidamente, e assim cortar o poder Yankee no pacifico...

O Russos cortariam este poder na Europa, os Indianos e Iranianos no Oriente médio e norte da Africa...

E nos cortariamos na A.L. e Africa Sub-Saariana...

Bem vindo ao mundo multi-Polar, onde nao existem poder onipotente e onipresente... onde os unicos deuses estao no céu e nao na terra!!

Que chegue logo, o mundo seria um lugar melhor!!




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#81 Mensagem por Penguin » Ter Jan 04, 2011 4:55 pm

Dispatch: China Considers Buying European Debt
January 3, 2011 | 2154 GMT
http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/201101 ... 6c360f748d

Analyst Marko Papic examines speculation that China is considering buying European outstanding debt as the Chinese vice premier prepares to visit Europe.

Editor’s Note: Transcripts are generated using speech-recognition technology. Therefore, STRATFOR cannot guarantee their complete accuracy.

Chinese Deputy Premier Li visits Spain, Germany and the United Kingdom from Jan. 4 to 12. His visit is fueling speculation that China is considering buying a considerable portion of European outstanding debt in 2011.

Li’s visit to Europe is significant because he is somebody who is speculated to be the successor to the current premier, Wen. Li’s visit also comes as China continues to consider diversifying its purchases of U.S. Treasury bills to other sovereign debt as well, and Europe certainly has ample amount of sovereign debt. In terms of what China actually gets out of buying European debt, there really are four different issues. The first is of course the diversification argument, which we already mentioned. The second is the idea that it could make smaller deals with specific countries. Earlier in 2010, it says that it would continue to purchase Greek debt and this led to successful purchases of several assets in Greece that Beijing hopes will be really a beachhead into Central and Eastern Europe. The third issue is protectionism. The Chinese are hoping that their willingness to consider purchasing some distressed debt in Europe will lead to a more relaxed attitude by the Europeans when it comes to trade protectionist attitudes. Only recently the Italian EU commissioner, Antonia Tajani, said that he would like to see the EU set up something akin to the U.S. Committee on Foreign Investments, an agency that would essentially review whether or not a particular European asset should be sold to a foreign bidder, and he specifically claimed that Chinese purchases of various assets in Europe have to do with purchasing essentially Europe’s technology at a low cost.

Finally, China would like to see the EU rescind its embargo on arms trades with Beijing. This is something that a number of European countries have wanted to see ended for while; the French of course stand to gain considerably from potential arms sales to China. However, the likelihood of anything really moving the Europeans in that direction is very low. The U.S. pressure on its allies within the European Union — such as the United Kingdom, but also other NATO member states — would be extreme, and therefore it is quite unlikely that the Europeans will be able to get the unanimity necessary to overturn the embargo.

Thus far there is no evidence proving that the Chinese bought a considerable amount of European debt in 2010 or that they’re willing to purchase more in 2011 other than public statements. However, public statements may be in the end all that the Europeans are looking for from Beijing. Mere mention that the Chinese are thinking of putting some portion — even a small portion — of their $2.7 trillion worth of foreign exchange behind European debt is worrying for investors thinking of shorting the euro in 2011, and it may stay the investors at least for the first quarter of 2011 in terms of betting against the euro. It will therefore be interesting to watch in the first quarter of 2011 whether the Chinese public statements of support have any measurable impact on interest rates during bond sales or whether there is greater demand for European bonds, especially of distressed countries like Spain and Italy. Furthermore, it will be interesting to see whether Li’s visit actually brings any return on potential Chinese investments.



Read more: Dispatch: China Considers Buying European Debt | STRATFOR




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#82 Mensagem por Francoorp » Ter Jan 04, 2011 5:54 pm

Melhor diversificar investimento... os USA num parecem muito confiaveis no pagar seu débito colossal no longo prazo.




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#83 Mensagem por Penguin » Dom Jan 09, 2011 1:21 am

08/01/2011 07h20 - Atualizado em 08/01/2011 07h20
Estudantes de Xangai surpreendem em exame internacional de educação
Municipalidade chinesa foi mais bem avaliada em teste da OCDE.
Lá, alunos ficam até as 16h na escola, veem pouca TV e não trabalham.


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Na aula de matemática da nona série, da professora Li Zhen, o exercício da manhã era de geometria. Os alunos da escola afiliada à Faculdade de Formação de Professores Jing'An foram solicitados a explicar o tamanho relativo de formas geométricas usando o teorema dos paralelogramos de Euclides.
"Quem pode me dizer como demonstrar que duas linhas são paralelas sem usar um segmento proporcional?", perguntou Li a cerca de 40 alunos sentados numa sala de aula lotada.
Um a um, uma série de estudantes desta escola pública de médio porte levantou a mão. Quando Li os chamou, cada um se levantou, formalmente, de suas carteiras e em geral responderam corretamente. Eles só retornaram aos seus lugares quando a professore os mandou sentar.
Educadores afirmam que essa abordagem disciplinada ajuda a explicar o anúncio, em dezembro do ano passado, de que 5.100 alunos de 15 anos de Xangai tiveram resultados melhores em comparação a estudantes de cerca de 65 países, num exame internacional da OCDE que avaliou a competência dos alunos em matemática, ciência e leitura.

Aluna responde a pergunta durante aula em escola em Xangai em 21 de dezembro de 2010. (Foto: New York Times)
Os estudantes americanos ficaram entre 15º e 31º lugar nas três categorias. A França e o Reino Unido também tiveram desempenho fraco. Especialistas disseram que é complicado comparar notas de alunos de países e cidades de tamanhos diferentes. Também argumentaram que as notas de Xangai não eram representativas da China, já que está cidade de 20 milhões de habitantes em franco crescimento é relativamente rica. Mesmo assim, ficaram impressionados pelas altas notas dos alunos de Xangai.
Os resultados foram encarados como mais um sinal da crescente competitividade da China. A posição dos Estados Unidos é um "alerta", disse Arne Duncan, secretária de educação.
Embora essa seja a primeira vez em que a China participa do exame, que foi administrado pela Organização para Cooperação e Desenvolvimento Econômico, com base em Paris, os resultados reforçaram a reputação do país de produzir estudantes com sólidas habilidades de matemática e ciências.
Muitos educadores também se surpreenderam com as altas notas dos alunos chineses em leitura, que media a proficiência dos estudantes em seu idioma nativo.
Os alunos de Xangai tiveram um bom desempenho, dizem especialistas, pelo mesmo motivo de outros estudantes da Ásia - incluindo Coreia do Sul, Cingapura e Hong Kong: seus sistemas educacionais se apoiam em disciplina, ensino à distância e preparação obsessiva para exames.
Alunos de escolas públicas de Xangai muitas vezes permanecem na escola até as 16h, assistem pouco à televisão e são proibidos, pela legislação chinesa, de trabalhar antes dos 16 anos.
"Muito raramente as crianças de outros países recebem um treinamento acadêmico tão intenso quanto nossas crianças", disse Sun Baohong, autoridade na área de educação da Academia de Ciências Sociais de Xangai. "Então, se o exame é de matemática ou ciências, não há dúvida de que os chineses vão ganhar a competição."
Porém, muitos educadores afirmam que a força da China na educação é também uma fraqueza. O sistema educacional do país é exageradamente orientado a exames, as escolas daqui reprimem a criatividade, e as pressões dos pais muitas vezes privam as crianças das alegrias da infância, argumentam.
"São dois lados da mesma moeda: as escolas chinesas são muito boas em preparar seus alunos para testes padronizados", escreveu Jiang Xueqin, vice-diretor da Escola de Ensino Médio da Universidade de Pequim, num artigo publicado no "Wall Street Journal" logo depois do anúncio dos resultados dos exames. "Por este motivo, a China é incapaz de prepará-los para a educação superior e para a economia do conhecimento."
Numa entrevista, Jiang disse que as escolas chinesas enfatizavam demais os exames, e produziam alunos pouco curiosos e sem pensamento crítico e independente.
"Isso cria alunos de visão limitada", afirmou. "Mas o que a China precisa agora é de empreendedores e inovadores."
Essa é uma queixa comum na China. Educadores sustentam que uma ênfase em exames padronizados explica, em parte, a escassez de novas empresas inovadoras na China. Executivos de empresas multinacionais com operações no país dizem ter dificuldades em encontrar gerentes intermediários capazes de pensar de forma criativa e resolver problemas.
De muitas formas, o sistema é um reflexo do passado confucionista da China. Aqui, espera-se que as crianças honrem e respeitem os pais e professores.
"A disciplina raramente é um problema", comentou Ding Yi, vice-diretor da escola afiliada Faculdade de Formação de Professores Jing'An. "O maior desafio é um aluno que nunca faz seu dever de casa."
Embora a qualidade dos alunos varie amplamente na China (escolas rurais muitas vezes não têm dinheiro suficiente, e os índices de evasão podem ser altos), escolas em grandes cidades normalmente produzem alunos com fortes habilidades em matemática e ciências.
Acredita-se que Xangai tenha o melhor sistema escolar do país, e muitos alunos aqui conseguem ser aceitos nas faculdades e universidades mais seletivas dos Estados Unidos.
Em Xangai, os professores devem ser certificados e passar por um mínimo de 240 horas de treinamento; professores dos níveis mais altos podem ter de se submeter a 540 horas de treinamento. Há um sistema de incentivos e pagamento por mérito, assim como os sistemas vigentes em algumas partes dos Estados Unidos.
"No pacote de remuneração de um professor, 70% é o salário básico", disse Xiong Bingqi, professor de educação da Universidade Xangai Jiaotong. "Os outros 30% são remunerações por desempenho."
Mesmo assim, os salários dos professores são modestos, cerca de US$ 750 por mês antes de bônus e descontos _ muito menos do que ganham contadores, advogados e outros profissionais.
Embora as escolas de Xangai sejam famosas por suas preparações para exames, os administradores daqui estão tentando ampliar os currículos e conceder mais liberdade aos distritos locais. A escola Jing'An, uma das cerca de 150 escolas em Xangai que participaram do exame internacional, foi criada há 12 anos para elevar os padrões numa área conhecida por escolas deficientes.
O diretor, Zhang Renli, criou uma escola experimental com menos ênfase em matemática e que dá às crianças mais tempo livro para brincar e experimentar. A escola organiza uma apresentação semanal de talentos, por exemplo.
O prédio da escola, com cinco andares, abriga a oitava e a nova série e fica num distrito central de Xangai. Os alunos usam uniformes amarrotados, as salas de aulas estão sempre cheias, e o almoço é trazido para a escola toda tarde.
Porém, a instituição de ensino, que funciona das 8h20 às 16h quase todos os dias, é considerada uma das melhores escolas da cidade.
Em Xangai, a maioria dos alunos começa a estudar inglês na primeira séria. Muitos estudantes da quinta à oitava série frequentam cursos extracurriculares depois da escola ou aos sábados.
Uma aluna da Jing'An, chamada Zhou Han, de 14 anos, contou participar de competições de escrita e discurso, além de estudar erhu, um instrumento chinês clássico.
Ela também tem um professor particular de matemática.
"Não sou muito boa em matemática", disse a menina. "No começo, meus pais queriam que eu tivesse essas aulas. Mas agora sou eu quem quer."




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#84 Mensagem por Penguin » Dom Jan 09, 2011 1:14 pm

China Shifting Nuclear Rules Of Engagement: Report
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Published: 5 Jan 2011 10:34

TOKYO - The Chinese military would consider a pre-emptive nuclear strike if it had no other way to defend itself in a war against another nuclear-armed state, Kyodo News said Jan. 5, citing Chinese documents.

The policy, called "Lowering the threshold of nuclear threats" may indicate a shift from China's pledge not to first fire nuclear weapons under any circumstances, the report said.

The Chinese military's strategic missile forces, the Second Artillery Corps, would "adjust" its policy if another nuclear state conducts air strikes against Chinese targets "with absolutely superior conventional weapons," the document says, according to Kyodo.

China would first warn an adversary about a nuclear strike, but if the enemy attacks China with conventional forces, the Chinese military "must carefully consider" a pre-emptive nuclear strike, Kyodo said.


The documents suggest that the Second Artillery Corps educate its personnel in worst-case scenarios, Kyodo said, adding that it is rare for information on China's nuclear policy to come to light.

U.S. military experts have argued since around 2007 that Beijing may have shown signs of altering its pledge of no first use of nuclear weapons, Kyodo said.

But in a sign of warming ties as the region contends with the threat of a nuclear-armed North Korea, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is scheduled to arrive in China on Jan. 9, the Pentagon announced in December.

The Pentagon said Gates will travel to China on the invitation of his Chinese counterpart, one year after Beijing broke off military relations with Washington in protest against a multibillion-dollar U.S. arms package for rival Taiwan.




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#85 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Jan 10, 2011 11:27 am

U.S., China Must Cooperate as World Powers, Gates Says


(Source: U.S Department of Defense; issued January 10, 2011)



BEIJING --- The United States and China are world powers that need to cooperate, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said here today.

At a news conference with after their meeting at the Bayi Building, Gates and Gen. Liang Guanglie, China’s minister of national defense, spoke of the importance of strong, reliable military-to-military contacts between the nations.

“Our two nations now have an extraordinary opportunity to define our relationship not by the obstacles that at times divide us, but by the opportunities that exist to foster greater cooperation and bring us closer together,” Gates said.

Both men noted that Chinese President Hu Jintao and President Barack Obama want good military-to-military ties between the nations.

Later, Gates met with Chinese Vice President Xi Jinping at the Great Hall of the People. “We’ve seen the United States and Chia cooperate to address several issues on the international front that pose dangers both regionally and across the world,” Gates said to Xi. “These are examples of what we can accomplish when we work together.”

The Chinese cut off military-to-military ties after the U.S. government sold defensive weapons to Taiwan last year. Gates has stressed that the military-to-military relationship must continue in good times and bad.

“We are in strong agreement that in order to reduce the chances of miscommunication, misunderstanding or miscalculation, it is important that our military-to-military ties are solid, consistent and not subject to shifting political winds,” Gates said.

Liang seemed to agree. Through a translator, the Chinese defense minister said both countries desire a healthy military-to-military relationship. “We both recognize that enhancing and maintaining dialogue and communication at all levels is of great significance in the development of military-to-military relations,” Liang said. Both sides share a responsibility to build mutual trust, he added.

The United States and China have more uniting them than dividing them, both men said. The United States and China agreed to cooperate on counterterrorism, counterpiracy, humanitarian operations and disaster assistance. The United States proposed, and the Chinese agreed, to study beginning a strategic security dialogue “as part of a broader strategic and economic dialogue that covers, nuclear, missile defense, space and cyber issues,” Gates said.

The two agreed to pick up and move out on seven high-priority areas for developing military-to-military relations that Gates negotiated with Gen. Xu Caihou, vice chairman of the Central Military Commission, in October 2009. They include high-level visits, institutionalized exchange programs and military education.

The high-level visits will begin soon with Gen. Chen Bingde, the Chinese army’s chief of staff, visiting the United States in the coming months as the guest of Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The two men sought to institutionalize and normalize contacts between the two militaries, agreeing that the defense consultative talks, the defense policy coordination talks and the military maritime consultative agreement can serve as important channels of communication between the two nations. Liang announced that the two nations agreed to hold the military maritime working group meeting and the defense policy coordination talks in the first half of this year.

The United States and China also will put together a joint working group that will discuss the guiding principles and framework for military-to-military relations and produce working documents for approval.

Gates and Liang both stressed that the cooperation will expand mutual interests and avoid misunderstanding and miscalculation.

China and the United States share many common interests and concerns that can best be addressed cooperatively, Gates said, noting that the two nations can work together addressing the challenges posed by the spread of nuclear, space, cyber and missile technology. They also can work to maintain peace and security on the Korean peninsula by facilitating engagement between the two Koreas and working toward the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula, he added.

China and the United States also can cooperate to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and to defuse global conflicts and tensions.

U.S. service members can expect more joint exercises with the Chinese military.

“Not only will joint exercises improve key capabilities on both sides,” Gates said, “they will also lead to safer practices for our sea and air forces and over time cultivate trust and lead to more opportunities for defense cooperation.” (ends)


Media Availability with Secretary Gates En Route to Beijing, China (excerpt)


(Source: U.S Department of Defense; issued January 8, 2011)



Q: Secretary, considering the revelations recently about the new ballistic missile that the Chinese are developing faster than American – the U.S. intelligence thought and the stealth fighter photos which have come out, does this – first of all, does this lend any additional urgency to your visit? Are you particularly concerned about that? And secondly, are you doing anything to address the possible – or checking to possible intelligence lapses that allowed them to get further than expected?

SECRETARY GATES: Well, I think, first of all, we’ve been watching these developments all along. I’ve been concerned about the development of the anti-ship cruise and ballistic missiles ever since I took this job. I would – we knew they were working on a stealth aircraft. I think that what we’ve seen is that they may be somewhat further ahead in the development of that aircraft than our intelligence had earlier predicted.

The one statement that I would make in terms of – I never said – as somebody quoted me – that their stealth aircraft didn’t matter. What I said was that in 2020 or 2025 that there would still be a vast disparity in the number of deployed fifth generation aircraft that the United States had compared to anybody else in the world. And I continue to stand by that statement even with some of the program changes that we’ve made in the Joint Strike Fighter.

And so these are matters of concern, and frankly if you go back and look very carefully at that egregiously long statement from last Thursday, you will notice that there – some of these higher priority areas for investment are focused on some of these anti-access programs.


Q: Let me just clarify what you said. You said the intel on the stealth fighter was – that they were (moving ?) ahead of that, faster than you thought?

SECRETARY GATES: Somewhat.


Q: (Inaudible.)

SECRETARY GATES: Well, I’ve heard it. I’d seen it about the stealth, but not – about the aircraft but not the missiles.


Q: Mr. Secretary, the last time that you were here, you talked very specifically about transparency with the Chinese. Is that something that you’ll be pushing again soon?

SECRETARY GATES: Well, I think that becomes – my hope would be that that would be part of the strategic dialogue, that as the two countries begin to talk about strategy and policies and so on that intentions will become more transparent. And I think that would be helpful. (end of excerpt)


Click here for the full transcript, on the Pentagon website.


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#86 Mensagem por marcelo l. » Seg Jul 04, 2011 3:19 pm

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#87 Mensagem por marcelo l. » Qua Set 07, 2011 11:41 am

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Na semana passada, o Pentágono divulgou seu relatório anual sobre o poderio militar da China . Embora exigido pelo Congresso, muitos funcionários do governo, sem dúvida, ver o relatório como um aborrecimento e desnecessariamente provocativo. No entanto, poucos podem afirmar que o Pentágono, assistida pelo processo interagências, não levar o projeto a sério. A edição deste ano foi o mais detalhado e abrangente como qualquer ainda não publicada. Ainda mais notável, a administração Barack Obama não hesitou em aumentar o nível do governo dos EUA de alarme sobre a modernização militar chinesa. Como ele informou o Pentágono corpo de imprensa sobre o relatório, Michael Schiffer, vice-secretário assistente de Defesa para o Leste Asiático, afirmou que os investimentos militares da China são "potencialmente desestabilizador para regionais saldos militar, aumentar o risco de mal-entendidos e erros de cálculo, e podem contribuir para regionais tensões e ansiedades. "

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#88 Mensagem por FOXTROT » Qui Set 08, 2011 9:25 am

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China promete "vigor inédito" se EUA venderem armas a Taiwan
08 de setembro de 2011

A imprensa oficial chinesa pediu nesta quinta-feira aos Estados Unidos que tenham "consciência dos danos" que provocariam com uma possível venda de armas a Taiwan, à qual Pequim responderia com um "vigor inédito".

"Se os Estados Unidos venderem a Taiwan aviões caça F-16, a reação da China terá um vigor inédito", afirma a edição em chinês do nacionalista Global Times.

O Diário do Povo, órgão oficial do Partido Comunista, "pede aos Estados Unidos que tenham consciência dos danos" que seriam provocados com a venda.

O governo Barack Obama indicou em agosto que Washington estava atado por uma lei, aprovada pelo Congresso em 1979, que exige que os Estados Unidos façam o necessário para que Taiwan possa se defender.

A revista americana Defense News informou que uma delegação do Pentágono viajou a Taiwan para informar as autoridades da ilha que Washington rejeitava a demanda da ilha para a compra de 66 caças F-16C/D e que estudava uma maneira de ajudar os taiwaneses a modernizar os F-16A/B que já possui.




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#89 Mensagem por Slotrop » Qui Set 08, 2011 9:46 am

Obama está "atado" a leis só quando convém, vide o ataque a Libía sem a aprovação do congresso.




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#90 Mensagem por soultrain » Qui Set 08, 2011 11:28 am

Os F-16 foram recusados definitivamente, já há algum tempo mas não veio a publico.





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