Marinha da Alemanha

[P44]

hmmmm...refereste ás F-125?

Geralmente os Alemães desenvolvem projectos só para eles e depois fazem outros para exportação (o conceito MEKO )

Sinceramente não sei....

[Einsamkeit]

Producto interessante esse e sim, parecem algo inspiradas nas Absalon, embora neste caso sejam mais fragatas e menos hibridas.

Muito polivaletes, mesmo a calhar para países sem grandes verbas para diversificar as tipologias, como o nosso, e que têm muitas vezes que ter navios muito polivalentes.

Serão modelo só para consumo interno ou haverá hipotese de colocação nos mercados internacionais?

Rui, a F-125 é para ataque terrestre, mesmo nao contando mais com o MLRS e o 155mm

[P44]

mais acerca da F-125

F125 is the project name for the Type 125 class of frigates, currently in development for the German Navy by ARGE F125, a joint-venture of Thyssen-Krupp and Lürssen. F125 is officially classified as frigates but in size and role they could be classified as destroyers.

In contrast to the Bremen class, which has been built with cold war scenarios in mind, the F125 will have much enhanced land-attack capabilities. This which will better suit frigates in possible future peacekeeping and peacemaking missions. For such reasons, the F125 will also mount non-lethal weapons.

Major design goals are reduced radar, infrared and acoustic signatures (stealth technology), something that was introduced to the German Navy with the Sachsen class frigate and was further developed with the Braunschweig class corvette, the first ship nearing completion.

Other important requirements are long maintenance periods: It should be able to deploy F125 class frigates for up to two years away from homeports with an average sea operation time of more than 5000 hours per year (that's nearly 60%). For this reason, a combined diesel-electric and gas arrangement has been chosen for the machinery. This allows the replacement of large and powerful diesel engines for propulsion and sets of smaller diesel generators for electric power generation with a pool of med-sized diesel generators, reducing the number of different engines.

To enhance survivability of the frigates, important systems are laid out in the two island principle, i.e. present at least twice at different places within the ship. This is also visible in the superstructures, which are split in two larger pyramidal deck houses. The arials of the phased array radar will be distributed over the two pyramids. This does not only ensure, the ships remains operational in case of larger damage because of accidents or enemy action, it also allows F125 frigates to keep station if needed when something breaks down and no replacement is available.

An initial batch of 4 frigates was to be ordered by the German Navy by late 2006. In light of other projects and potential plannings, the order has officially been postponed indefinitely for now though, and the program will come under review again in late 2007 [1]. The initial batch of 4 ships costs around 2.2 billion Euros. In April 2007, a contract with Finmeccanica was signed for delivery of Otobreda 127mm Volcano main guns as well as remote-controlled light gun turrets for the F125.[2]

The initially considered 155mm MONARC gun, as well as the naval GMLRS rocket launcher, were dropped due to problems with the navalization of these land-based systems

mais em
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F125

[P44]

(outro assunto relacionado com a Marinha Alemã, que me deparei agora):

de
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_class_destroyer

List of ships
Pennant
number Name Call
sign Laid down Launched Commissioned Decommissioned Fate
D181 Hamburg DRAA January 29, 1959 March 26, 1960 March 23, 1964 February 24, 1994 scrapped in Spain
D182 Schleswig-Holstein DRAB August 20, 1959 August 20, 1960 October 12, 1964 December 15, 1994 scrapped in Belgium
D183 Bayern DRAC February 15, 1961 August 14, 1962 July 6, 1965 December 16, 1993 scrapped in Denmark
D184 Hessen DRAD February 5, 1961 May 4, 1963 October 8, 1968 March 29, 1990 scrapped in Portugal

D-182


sabiam desta

[P44]

Budget Committee Approves Procurement of Four Frigates of the Class 125

(Source: German Ministry of Defence; dated June 20, 2007)


(Issued in German only; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)



BERLIN --- The budget committee of the German Federal Parliament (Bundestag), in its current meeting, approved the conclusion of a contract for the construction, building and supply of four frigates of the class 125.

The Type 125 frigate (F 125) differs substantially from the existing frigates and is intended as a substantial component for the new armed forces category of the stabilization forces.

The F 125 is intended for multinational and joint military operations in the end of the spectrum of peace-stabilizing measures appropriate to middle intensity and long duration.

Apart from maritime stabilization operations, the F125 is particularly suited for defense against asymmetrical threats, tactical fire support of troops ashore, the support of special forces and the support of evacuation operations. The F125 thus constitutes a substantial step in the transformation of the German Federal Armed Forces, and the navy’s reorientation.

With a comparatively small crew of approximately 120 men, the F125 will be able to fulfill this broad mission spectrum thanks to consistent technical innovations and a design based on the intensive use concept.

According to present plans, the four F 125 frigates will enter service in the middle of the next decade.

The main contractor is the BAD F 125 consortium, consisting of the companies ThyssenKrupp Naval Systems and Friedrich Luerssen Werft shipyards. The participation of Peene-Werft shipyard in the manufacturing phase a been agreed.

The F125 project contributes considerably to the maintaining military engineering core abilities in Germany and will secures approx. 500 jobs in direct manufacturing, as well as a further 300 jobs in supporting industry.

The portion of the orders intended for German-based companies is 87 % of the complete order value.

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[Rui Elias Maltez]

4 F-125?

humm.. será que teremos a Alemanha a reconquistar Gdansk, para termos uma nova Prússia, agora que as relações entre ambos andam tão doces??

[Einsamkeit]

Gdansk nao!!

Danzig!!!



Von der Maas bis an die Memel,

Von der Etsch bis an den Belt



Rui, é mais facil a Polonia anexar a Alemanha do que os Alemaes levantarem um dedo contra alguem

A Bundesmarine é proporcionalmente minuscula em relaçao a Inglaterra, França e até Espanha...

[Luís Henrique]

Gdansk nao!!

Danzig!!!



Von der Maas bis an die Memel,

Von der Etsch bis an den Belt



Rui, é mais facil a Polonia anexar a Alemanha do que os Alemaes levantarem um dedo contra alguem

A Bundesmarine é proporcionalmente minuscula em relaçao a Inglaterra, França e até Espanha...

Mas o exército alemão é maior....

[Sniper]

Gdansk nao!!

Danzig!!!



Von der Maas bis an die Memel,

Von der Etsch bis an den Belt



Rui, é mais facil a Polonia anexar a Alemanha do que os Alemaes levantarem um dedo contra alguem

A Bundesmarine é proporcionalmente minuscula em relaçao a Inglaterra, França e até Espanha...

Mas o exército alemão é maior....

A população da Alemanha também é maior. O exército é proporcional!

[Einsamkeit]

Sei nao, capaz de os Poloneses atacarem e 2h depois existirem levas de refugiados na Holanda, França...

Fosse no tempo do II Reich a Polonia nem existiria

[cabeça de martelo]

Pois...mas neste momento as tropas Polacas têm mais experiência em combate (recente) do que as tropas Alemãs. Têm unidades como a GROM, os Páras também são alto nível, Cavalaria equipada com...Leopard II, etc.

[P44]

Pois...mas neste momento as tropas Polacas têm mais experiência em combate (recente) do que as tropas Alemãs. Têm unidades como a GROM, os Páras também são alto nível, Cavalaria equipada com...Leopard II, etc.

e não esqueçamos a terrivel dupla dos Manos do governo, quase emperraram a UE toda e voltaram com o choradinho das "indeminzações pela 2ªGM"....

Se fosse aos alemães propunha que fossem expulsos da UE...

[Einsamkeit]

Pois...mas neste momento as tropas Polacas têm mais experiência em combate (recente) do que as tropas Alemãs. Têm unidades como a GROM, os Páras também são alto nível, Cavalaria equipada com...Leopard II, etc.

e não esqueçamos a terrivel dupla dos Manos do governo, quase emperraram a UE toda e voltaram com o choradinho das "indeminzações pela 2ªGM"....

Se fosse aos alemães propunha que fossem expulsos da UE...

Só exigem porque os Alemaes tem uma postura fraca em relaçao aos Poloneses, e qual o problema dos gemeos?

[P44]

Tirando serem uns idiotas?

[Einsamkeit]

Tirando serem uns idiotas?

Porque idiotas caro lagarto?