Reabastecimento FAB

[Penguin]

Eu preferia um quadrimotor.

IL-96UP

[Bolovo]

Só eu acho esse papo de avião presidencial, aerodilma e tal um factoide?

Os aviões provavelmente irão para o Esquadrao Corsário, casa dos KC-137 e não para o GTE. Ou seja, uma de suas missões será a VIP, mas além disso: transporte estratégico (Lembra quando a FAB teve que buscar os brasileiros no Libano em 2006? Ou quando tem que levar soldados para o Haiti?), reabastecimento, etc.

Do jeito que falam parece que querem gastar 300 milhões de dolares pq a Dilma quer um avião novo. Ah, vá.

[Carlos Mathias]

Só eu acho esse papo de avião presidencial, aerodilma e tal um factoide?

Não, pelo menos aqui não.
Todo mundo que sabe o mínimo de Defesa sabe que são tanqueiros/cargueiros.

[Alitson]

Se a questão é autonomia, então Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner na cabeça (17.395 km). Apesar de ser biturbina.


Boeing 777 da Varig

PP-VRA B777 200ER
Ja voei bastante esse aviao .

Para Presidencial eu votaria em um quadrimotor , mas preferiria o B747 800 .

Abcs

O Irã já usa o 747 como REVO.
Porém o problema da FAB é escolher uma aeronave que não tenha de usar pistas muito longas, por isso a idéia de um 767 cai melhor aos olhos. Mas falando sério, 747-800 como VIP, cargueiros e REVO seria simplesmente...

[Penguin]

DATE:09/12/10
SOURCE:Flight International
Brazil to seek deal for A330 tankers

After issuing a request for proposals in September, the Brazilian air force's KC-X tanker/transport procurement has taken an unexpected turn. Despite having initially forecast the participation of at least three bidders, sources in Brasilia indicate that Airbus Military's A330 multi-role tanker/transport might be selected before the end of the year.

Launched earlier in the decade to replace the air force's four Boeing KC-137 (707) tanker/transports, the use of which has been hampered by low availability rates over the last few years, the KC-X programme was fast-tracked early this year.

Problems with the service's sole long-range air transport assets were highlighted by its provision of only a small number of relief flights following the earthquake in Haiti early this year. Its KC-137s were then unable to take part in the 23-day Cruzex V exercise that was conducted during November.

However, it was the type's role as a long-range presidential transport that spurred the government to seek a quick replacement. Brazil purchased one Airbus A319CJ in 2005, but this is unable to satisfy seating and range requirements for longer presidential trips.

With an immediate requirement for two tanker/transports and an option for a third, Brazil's KC-X programme calls for one aircraft to be reconfigurable for presidential transport duties.

The air force originally expected Airbus to tender a proposal based on its A330-200-based MRTT design, with Boeing and Israel Aerospace Industries - the latter teamed with Brazil's VEM - to submit offers based on modified 767s. However, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has indicated that a selection will be finalised later this month.

[prp]

DATE:09/12/10
SOURCE:Flight International
Brazil to seek deal for A330 tankers

After issuing a request for proposals in September, the Brazilian air force's KC-X tanker/transport procurement has taken an unexpected turn. Despite having initially forecast the participation of at least three bidders, sources in Brasilia indicate that Airbus Military's A330 multi-role tanker/transport might be selected before the end of the year.

Launched earlier in the decade to replace the air force's four Boeing KC-137 (707) tanker/transports, the use of which has been hampered by low availability rates over the last few years, the KC-X programme was fast-tracked early this year.

Problems with the service's sole long-range air transport assets were highlighted by its provision of only a small number of relief flights following the earthquake in Haiti early this year. Its KC-137s were then unable to take part in the 23-day Cruzex V exercise that was conducted during November.

However, it was the type's role as a long-range presidential transport that spurred the government to seek a quick replacement. Brazil purchased one Airbus A319CJ in 2005, but this is unable to satisfy seating and range requirements for longer presidential trips.

With an immediate requirement for two tanker/transports and an option for a third, Brazil's KC-X programme calls for one aircraft to be reconfigurable for presidential transport duties.

The air force originally expected Airbus to tender a proposal based on its A330-200-based MRTT design, with Boeing and Israel Aerospace Industries - the latter teamed with Brazil's VEM - to submit offers based on modified 767s. However, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has indicated that a selection will be finalised later this month.

Linda a foto. Poderia ser da FAB.

[Zepa]

DATE:09/12/10
SOURCE:Flight International
Brazil to seek deal for A330 tankers

After issuing a request for proposals in September, the Brazilian air force's KC-X tanker/transport procurement has taken an unexpected turn. Despite having initially forecast the participation of at least three bidders, sources in Brasilia indicate that Airbus Military's A330 multi-role tanker/transport might be selected before the end of the year.

Launched earlier in the decade to replace the air force's four Boeing KC-137 (707) tanker/transports, the use of which has been hampered by low availability rates over the last few years, the KC-X programme was fast-tracked early this year.

Problems with the service's sole long-range air transport assets were highlighted by its provision of only a small number of relief flights following the earthquake in Haiti early this year. Its KC-137s were then unable to take part in the 23-day Cruzex V exercise that was conducted during November.

However, it was the type's role as a long-range presidential transport that spurred the government to seek a quick replacement. Brazil purchased one Airbus A319CJ in 2005, but this is unable to satisfy seating and range requirements for longer presidential trips.

With an immediate requirement for two tanker/transports and an option for a third, Brazil's KC-X programme calls for one aircraft to be reconfigurable for presidential transport duties.

The air force originally expected Airbus to tender a proposal based on its A330-200-based MRTT design, with Boeing and Israel Aerospace Industries - the latter teamed with Brazil's VEM - to submit offers based on modified 767s. However, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has indicated that a selection will be finalised later this month.

Linda a foto. Poderia ser da FAB.

Reabastecendo os Su35

[Valdemort]

PP-VRA B777 200ER
Ja voei bastante esse aviao .

Para Presidencial eu votaria em um quadrimotor , mas preferiria o B747 800 .

Abcs

O Irã já usa o 747 como REVO.
Porém o problema da FAB é escolher uma aeronave que não tenha de usar pistas muito longas, por isso a idéia de um 767 cai melhor aos olhos. Mas falando sério, 747-800 como VIP, cargueiros e REVO seria simplesmente...

Claro que 747 800 seria uma viagem . Mas o Emir do Qatar encomendou 2 .

A grande vantagem do 747 800 e a combinacao de grande Pay Load com grande autonomia , algumas empresas cargueiras ja o encomendaram na vesao cargo .
So que se o 787 esta dando problemas e atrasos imagina esse que nem voou ainda .

Os 747 do Iran sao da versao SP sem grande capacidade de carga e alto consumo . Eles nao tem opcao com o embargo internacional.

[brisa]

Com Dilma, Airbus terá apenas mulheres; conheça a equipe




http://www.portalaz.com.br/noticia/gera ... quipe.html

[Alcantara]

Palhaçada...

[sapao]

Só eu acho esse papo de avião presidencial, aerodilma e tal um factoide?

Os aviões provavelmente irão para o Esquadrao Corsário, casa dos KC-137 e não para o GTE. Ou seja, uma de suas missões será a VIP, mas além disso: transporte estratégico (Lembra quando a FAB teve que buscar os brasileiros no Libano em 2006? Ou quando tem que levar soldados para o Haiti?), reabastecimento, etc.

Do jeito que falam parece que querem gastar 300 milhões de dolares pq a Dilma quer um avião novo. Ah, vá.

Existem 2 projetos Bolovo: o KC-X e o VC-X.
Para o RFI do VC-X foram propostas o A-330, 340 e 350; do outro lado o 747, 787 e 777.
Essa e paralela ao KC-X, que iria exercer o papel de aeronave de apoio a presidencia.

[FCarvalho]

Sapão, desde quando existem este projeto VC-X? E desde quando estas propostas estão valendo? Há mais informações a despeito que possas comentar conosco?

abs.

[Arataca]

Prezados,

A Airbus tem 2 A330 e 17 A340 de segunda mão para venda.

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/as ... available/

1 abraço

[sapao]

Sapão, desde quando existem este projeto VC-X?

Não sei.

E desde quando estas propostas estão valendo? Há mais informações a despeito que possas comentar conosco?
abs.

Não sei se existe proposta, até onde ouvi existiu apenas um RFI.
Isso pode não dizer nada pois e apenas uma pesquisa de mercado.

[irlan]

A presidenta não vai voar em avião usado...